Basic income vs basic jobs – page 2 – survivalist forum gaston yla agrupacion santa fe

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Except that, in the REAL world….they DON’T actually employ anyone to do those things, what they do is task someone to do them at the expense of what they are SUPPOSED to be doing, like the city worker that gets stuck picking up trash along the road instead of fixing the sidewalk at my house, so paying someone else to do them displaces no one, but rather, lets everyone do what they are supposed to do, thus maximizing the return on our investments.

So the solution to getting the tasks done, is pilling them on other people’s tasks and giving those people more work than they are supposed to handle, instead of actually making that an employable position, even if it’s a "crap" job, and getting someone off unemployment? The jobs need to be done, get actual employees doing those jobs, and get the unemployment number down instead of getting the jobs done and keeping the unemployment number the same! Less people who need government assistance in that case, who actually get paid for their work. Otherwise you’re just using the unemployed as a cheaper workforce and changing nothing.

Some Democrats angling for the 2020 presidential nomination have a big idea: a basic jobs guarantee, where the government promises a job to anybody who wants one. Cory Booker, Kirsten Gillibrand, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders are all said to be considering the plan.

If they come from private businesses, the business sets the rate of your pay. They pay you x-amount of dollars for performing job A. You can make more when they see you are willing and capable to job B, and even more when you can do job C. That is how it works. You perform and learn a higher level of skills, you get a raise. If you are sub-standard, you don’t and may not have job A anymore. If you are good at performing job A, you continue at job A levels of pay. But businesses can’t keep non-performers on their payroll because that isn’t how it works.

Now if the plan is to give those people government jobs, who pays for it? Say a person hired makes $15 an hour and if they even pay taxes, let’s say it amounts to one dollar an hour for their years wages. Where are we getting the other $14 an hour from, plus benefits they will get?

Except that, in the REAL world….they DON’T actually employ anyone to do those things, what they do is task someone to do them at the expense of what they are SUPPOSED to be doing, like the city worker that gets stuck picking up trash along the road instead of fixing the sidewalk at my house, so paying someone else to do them displaces no one, but rather, lets everyone do what they are supposed to do, thus maximizing the return on our investments.

So the solution to getting the tasks done, is pilling them on other people’s tasks and giving those people more work than they are supposed to handle, instead of actually making that an employable position, even if it’s a "crap" job, and getting someone off unemployment? The jobs need to be done, get actual employees doing those jobs, and get the unemployment number down instead of getting the jobs done and keeping the unemployment number the same! Less people who need government assistance in that case, who actually get paid for their work. Otherwise you’re just using the unemployed as a cheaper workforce and changing nothing.

Some Democrats angling for the 2020 presidential nomination have a big idea: a basic jobs guarantee, where the government promises a job to anybody who wants one. Cory Booker, Kirsten Gillibrand, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders are all said to be considering the plan.

If they come from private businesses, the business sets the rate of your pay. They pay you x-amount of dollars for performing job A. You can make more when they see you are willing and capable to job B, and even more when you can do job C. That is how it works. You perform and learn a higher level of skills, you get a raise. If you are sub-standard, you don’t and may not have job A anymore. If you are good at performing job A, you continue at job A levels of pay. But businesses can’t keep non-performers on their payroll because that isn’t how it works.

Now if the plan is to give those people government jobs, who pays for it? Say a person hired makes $15 an hour and if they even pay taxes, let’s say it amounts to one dollar an hour for their years wages. Where are we getting the other $14 an hour from, plus benefits they will get?