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I agree that barriers at the entrance and exit to sites are inconvenient, however they are sometimes necessary. People have and will drive across the middle of a site, spinning foot deep ruts thinking it is somehow easier than just following the road. They are a necessary evil at times. And if you hit a fixed object with your rig, that is on you, my insurance isn’t going to pay.

Not every park has unlimited space available to build 100+ foot long sites and parking lots for all the potential toys. We certainly do not, and we will tell you upfront. Sometimes we just turn down a reservation request because we cannot accommodate you. Please don’t call us all the four letter words if you are a semi towing a 40 foot fifth wheel with you 35 foot cabin cruiser behind it and your wife is following you with your suburban towing your motorcycles in a 30 foot enclosed trailer and we say we can’t accommodate your reservation request.

Two sets or utilities are a good idea until you get to the pesky electrical codes. Telling the inspector that only one of the two sets will be in use at any one time isn’t going to cut it. You would have to double the incoming power to the park to put two services at each site. Plus ever time you put additional hookups in a site you have additional things for people to run over, for groundskeeping to mow and trim around costing time and money. Add that to the additional costs and you are tacking a couple of extra bucks onto the site price with no real benefit that guests are readily willing to pay for or that can be advertised.

Private bath rooms are nice for some guests but can be a big problem for parks. Believe it or not, the Men’s and Women’s configuration are much more efficient. People will spend much less time in them, making turnover for the next users much faster. Also, people will do things in a private bath they wouldn’t consider doing in the public rooms. Washing dogs, washing their dishes in the sink and doing the nasty all come to mind.

On the subject of bathrooms, in the past we’ve traveled with my wife’s handicapped sister and our then handicapped granddaughter, and now as we’ve gotten older and have our own health issues, and we’ve found parks that provide one or more "family" bathrooms that are not gender specific and can comfortably accommodate at least two people to be very much appreciated. gas 4 weeks pregnant So far, state parks seem to be the ones most likely to have the facilities that cater to folks in our situation more so than private parks. Probably a bit surprisingly, we’ve usually found the family facilities to be the cleanest as well.

I agree with WRVPO on the electrical hookup duplication, but one area that can be duplicated at little additional cost per site is the sewer hookup. Extending the line far enough along the side of the site to accommodate two or three connection points can make hooking up much more convenient for a variety of RV plumbing layouts. Reaching water and power is usually much easier than a long sewer hose run.

We’ve talked about the relatively poor ROI for most new RV parks, and you’ve mentioned "streamlining" the development process, but I wonder if you’ve really looked into that ROI issue. If you build an apartment building and reach an average 80%+ occupancy rate, you’re likely going to do well assuming your rates are in line. An RV park that caters to the traveling public though, is almost never going to achieve that high an occupancy rate on an annual basis. Parks that cater heavily to permanent/seasonal guests may reach numbers that high, but is that the type of park you have in mind? Earlier you mentioned a shortage of RV parks, but the reality is that there is only a shortage in some areas, some of the time. electricity will not generally cause The rest of the time, there are plenty of unoccupied sites to pick from. And the variety of traveling RV’ers means that there are likely few opportunities for "cookie cutter" parks developed from a master plan of some sort. Every location is unique, yet every location needs something that attracts guests both initially and repeatedly. A park near an Interstate exit for example may be perfect for overnighters en-route to a destination, but not likely to attract families on a 2-week vacation. Darrell mentioned entertaining your guests, but that’s very much tied to the clientele your park is designed to attract. The overnight park I mentioned for instance, needs very little in the way of entertainment, while a destination park may need a wide variety of features to attract a variety of guests.

To at least some degree, such as designating parks for overnighters, etc, you’re "reinventing the wheel" since KOA has already established similar designations for their franchisees. They also survey their VKR members from time to time related to changing tastes and new features, as do most of the subscription or club based RV park chains.

In my opinion, a drive-in movie theater at an RV park is a terrible idea. The night time noise and traffic alone would be enough to irritate many RV’ers. And consider also that many RV’ers would have to break down their site to patronize the drive-in in their Class B’s, and other RV’s that don’t have a separate vehicle available. As an astute business man, I’ll assume you’re also aware that the few remaining drive-in theaters typically only cover their movie rental costs at best with the entry receipts. The snack bar is the profit center that pays the rest of the bills. Friends of ours spent about $40,000 two years ago for mandatory film to digital projection upgrades for their two drive-ins (3 screens) using refurbished equipment. They expect recovering that cost will take many years since it’s an upgrade that will help maintain their current average head count, but of itself will not bring in new customers. Like RV parks, drive-ins are not a high profit business, which likely accounts for why many of both are family owned and operated (read "cheap help") almost hobby operations.

And regarding park shortages, as I said, there are only shortages some of the time, not all of the time. Would you build a large hotel that would only be heavily occupied 4-5 months a year versus a smaller one that could maintain a high average occupancy year round? RV parks in summer season destination areas tend to fill up on weekends, but not so much on week days for instance. In the winter, the popular snowbird areas do better since they cater more to retired RV’ers that tend to stay longer. But the parks in those areas can be pretty desolate in the 7-8 month off season. If you can come up with a park that can be easily resized seasonally with a corresponding reduction in features and staffing, that would help to some extent, but you would still have a lot of unproductive fixed overhead sitting there for much of the year. As I’m sure WRVPO and other park owners can tell you, it’s not an easy business, and RV’ers can be a pretty fickle bunch when it comes to deciding where to park.

One more time from the peanut gallery out here. In our fairly short time RVing (6 years) we have stayed at many different types of RV parks. The ones we choose for overnight stays are not the choices we would make as our destination park. gas constant for air We are a lot more conservative in what we expect from an overnight park as opposed to the ones we choose as destination parks. We can do without many certain amenities in a overnight park, other than cleanliness of course, than we can or will in a destination park. Being fully self contained we rarely use the bathroom facilities in overnight parks or much of anything else they offer. After a day on the road all we want is a clean and safe place with working hookups and with easy access and egress from the nearby interstate. Satellite RV reception is nice as we like to watch the evening and morning news from our local channels, something cable doesn’t offer. Destination parks are of course used as overnighters but few overnight parks are used as destination parks from what we’ve come to see and learn in our travels. k electric share price forecast Who in their right mind would want to stay a week in a park situated right on a busy interstate with a double set of railroad tracks right out back of the park. Not us. But for a simple overnight stay we will certainly use that park if it is clean and safe, etc., and at the end of our normal daily travels. Lots of really great responses from the RVPR crowd. For sure if we run across a plot of land that we feel could be a great place for an RV park I’ll post a heads up on it. Again, hope this works out for you as well as for us, the RVers who are always looking for a park with what we feel will be a great place to toss out the anchor, be it for a single night or a 10 day stay…………………

Click to expand…You left out Pet loops and children loops. Then you also need loops with trees, concrete, campfires, dog free adult only. However some adult only fans want dogs, some want dogs but no campfires. Others want the dogs, no kids but don’t want trees. Some families with kids also have dogs, but in other families the kids are very afraid of dogs. Some families like evening campfires, but other families are afraid their kids will get burned. Trees, full hookups, campfires, highly improved pads, adult only, pets, long vs short length of stay are 7 binary variables. Going back to math class, I come up with the need for 128 different loops to cover the different combinations. That’s going to be a pretty darn big park even with only 10 sites per loop.

Then what do you do if you have 11 guests who want the same combinations, make one or more of them compromise on their choices? When you advertise a certain amenity, you need to have it available or you are setting yourself up for customer service failure. Kind of like when you check into a hotel that has smoking and non smoking rooms and your selection is sold out. You are going to be highly upset if you don’t get your number one choice, whereas if the hotel only had one option, you just resign yourself to the policy. The same thing would happen if you had these different loops. Someone who chose your park because you specifically had pet free,or campfire free or adult only loops would not be happy should they arrive and their choice was no longer available. Sometimes less is more, since expectations are not elevated and then not met.

1 – My first and foremost consideration for choosing a campground is the space between rigs. The more the better. I loathe the parks that cram you in so tight you can’t keep your blinds up cause your neighbors are RIGHT next to you watching you. gas constant in atm Hate that and I won’t stay at an park like that ever again. I would pay $100 a night to have a space between us and the neighbors.

4 – We recently stayed at a campground in the Collington, NC (OBX Campground) that had wonderful lights right above the hookups. The electric post was about 5 feet tall and mounted on top was a wonderful, modern light that shined not only on the electrical outlets but also on the space #. It provided just enough life to get around and not trip over something when walking the dog in the middle of the night, but was in no way too bright or obtrusive to affect sleeping. I strongly encourage anyone starting a camp ground to consider such a light.

Of course, cleanliness in bathrooms, a well maintained yard and picnic tables, etc., are all important. We don’t have children so we don’t care about amenities for kids. We stayed at a campground in Ocean City, Maryland that had an area for quiet campers (i.e. those that don’t party all day/night and don’t enjoy the sound of children). That was a very nice idea and appreciated.