Ford ending production on most sedans – international skeptics forum types of electricity generation


– It assumes that Ford will be quick enough to react if/when public demand for smaller cars suddenly spikes (or will they simply hold on to the higher-margin Trucks/SUVs until the bitter end, thinking "People will go back to SUVs eventually… we just have to wait a bit longer") If Trump starts bombing Iran and gas goes up $1/gallon, how long do you think it will take for Ford to start marketing sedans again in the United States? 6 months? A year? How many sales will they lose in the mean time?

– They are turning their back on a large segment of the market who want sedans NOW. Granted, as I pointed out, consumer demand has drifted towards larger vehicles. But even now, Ford does sell 10s of thousands of sedans in a year. They’re basically giving up that market to other manufacturers. And while drivers are not always loyal to car brands, there will be at least a few entry-level drivers who buy low-end sedans out of necessity (because they can’t afford anything else) and decided to stick with the brand (even when they go to higher-end models) simply because they were happy with the first purchase.

I myself drive a Hyundai Accent. My last car was a Civic. (I did look at other vehicles the last time I bought a car, including Toyotas, Chevs, Kias, Fords, etc.) I do not like driving big cars. Not only do I prefer smaller cars for the fuel efficiency, I also like their maneuverability (my Accent can fit into some pretty tight spaces) and their responsiveness (the car stops faster when I step on the breaks.) Plus, I do not see cars as some sort of "status symbol", and I do not get any pleasure out of buying some sort of high-end luxury car with features that I don’t need. Give me basic, reliable transportation at a decent price. What Ford has done is guaranteed that the next time I shop for a car, I can avoid my local Ford dealership because they won’t have what I want.

Ford is in a tough spot. They make popular trucks and large vehicles, but the small vehicle market is hard to enter. Kia makes some decent small cars with small price tags, and Honda and Toyota’s legendary reliability is available for not too much more. You also have Mazda and Hyundai making cars that span the price range. Lots of coverage here, hard to find an entry point for Ford.

I was looking for a small, inexpensive, reliable car when I bought my Corolla. Honestly, it feels kinda big. I would have bought a Yaris or Fit, but I didn’t see any good condition ones near me with manual transmissions. I was intrigued by the small cars made by Chevy in theory, but their well known history of quality problems wouldn’t let me consider them. Not a lot of options in the US for truly compact cars. It’s a shame!

My fiance had one of the notorious Ford Fiestas that had the terrible transmissions. Three warranty rebuilds on the same transmission with less than 50k miles on a new car. She traded it in for a Honda. People looking for small cars are usually driven by budget and reliability concerns. Ford doesn’t look very attractive compared to it’s peers.

Confirmation bias alert. I was behind a Chevy Equinox in traffic yesterday that was burning oil like no tomorrow. Steady stream of blue/white smoke while idling and huge belches when it started forward. Couldn’t have been more than 5-7 years old, by appearance. Imagine paying 20k for that heap of crap!

Well, first of all, "history" has actually demonstrated the opposite… there have been 2 time periods (during the 70s with the first invasion of the Japanese automakers, and the post-2008 recession where the car makers needed government bailouts) that there aren’t always enough people willing to buy large gas guzzlers.

There are 2 issues at play here: can ford maintain its current market share in the SUV/truck market, and will the market remain stable or grow. The SUV market HAS grown, but history has shown that that may not always be the case. And while they have been successful selling Trucks/SUVs, there is always a chance that Honda/Toyota/Hyundai may end up taking over those markets as they did with the small car market.

I think if they are going to survive long-term, they need to revamp their car segments. I’d bet that is exactly what they are going to do in the long-term: start coming out with competitive sedans and small cars to replace the current crop. But first, they are going to streamline and do what they do best: Trucks and SUVs