How about a class action lawsuit regarding entune – toyota nation forum toyota car and truck forums electricity song 2015

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While I understand some of your frustration, I don’t think you have much of a chance in pursuing such a lawsuit. A lot of the limitations you are complaining about could’ve been discovered during a decent test drive of the vehicle. Or renting one for a few days to test things out in the real world before plunking down your hard-earned money.

The Navigation system being "locked down" while the car is in motion is nothing new to Toyota. That restriction existed in my 2005 Prius. And it’s not completely locked down while moving. You can still perform certain functions. It would be nice if Toyota would unlock the search functions if you have a passenger in the front seat.

Voice recognition has always been a hit or miss feature. Some headunits are better at it than others. The level of ambient noise can have an affect on things. The voice-recognition in our Highlander Hybrid is top notch, but the one in my 2012 Plug-in Prius leaves a bit to be desired.

As to regular periodic updates to the map database being done at the user’s expense, again, that’s been the case, at least for me, since 2005 with the Prius. Back then, even manufacturers like Garmin were charging for periodic updates. The fact that Honda is no longer charging for them now may be a sign that all automakers will start including them. They still won’t be free. You’ll just have paid for them up front in the total purchase price of the car. Someone quoted $169 for a recent map update. That’s cheaper than the nearly $300 I had to pay for my 2005 Prius 4.5 years ago. Yes, I went 7 years on the original map data because there wasn’t a super compelling reason to upgrade. Not a lot of road updates in the area in which I live. I didn’t use the POI database all that often to make it worth it to update. The only reason I did update was because I was selling the car to my son and thought he should have an up-to-date map database. It’s not necessary to update every year unless you live in an area that is undergoing rapid development with new roads & communities. If you do, then hopefully the local dealer you bought the car from would understand the need for periodic updates and would have included it in the deal to buy the car.

Not sure what kind of user apps you envision being able to add to the headunit. Toyota didn’t advertise the ability to add your own apps, so it’s hard to sue them for a feature they never claimed to have or support. The headunit is not a tablet to be loaded up with apps, especially ones that could unnecessarily distract you while driving.

I don’t understand this thread. At all. We have a 2017 Prius V and I assume it has the Entune whatever….. we don’t use navigation (we have phones that are faster, more accurate, and have the ability to use faster/real time socially driven data), we don’t use voice controls, and quite honestly – as a whole it’s more of a distraction to driving than anything.

However, when you buy a car – you buy the car. The salesman can tell you, until they are blue in the face, that there’s a fire breathing dragon under the hood and you should look to see it – but if you don’t open the hood or read the fine print of the contract you are signing that specifically says "1.8L 4 cylinder VVTi hybrid engine", the company shouldn’t be held liable for not selling you a fire breathing dragon.

30 years ago you had the option of NO radio (and possibly buy your own), an AM radio, AM/FM, AM/FM with cassette, AM/FM with CD player, AM/FM with cassette and CD, AM/FM with cassette and CD changer, and for extremely expensive cars – they incorporated a handheld cell (or satellite) phone. Most people then went with an aftermarket system.

When you buy a car today you don’t necessarily have the variety of options – and adding an aftermarket option isn’t always applicable anymore. That means you, as a consumer, must find what fits your expectations from the get go. That other manufacturer may have exactly what you want for the info-tainment system, but it’s at a cost of an additional $1500 – so you have to make the choice.

I have to agree with toyotaspeed. It wasn’t just 30 years ago, but in the first generation of this same Rav4 that the toys you complain about weren’t even available. The Rav 4 EVs that SCE leased and that Toyota refused to resell to the public after the leases expired, didn’t have what you’re griping about. The very first iphone didn’t have fingerprint or face recognition. It did have a user interface that led to the death of the Blackberry. Toyota and Ford and GM and most others now put some touch screen, radio, a/c and maybe nav into one big plastic box so that Best Buy is not an option, and Circuit City is gone.

How many of you would buy a new or newer car without that touch screen? Was it toyotaspeed who asked you if you even played with the toys during your test drive? Most people do 90% of their shopping online; then show up to a car lot just to do paperwork and drive home what they’ve already chosen. Did that online research warn you that U.S. spec cars have the nav systems severely disabled when you’re driving over 3 mph? Or did your online pre-shopping tell you that the nav will route you on a direct route, rather than rerouting you to avoid traffic accidents? In Los Angeles, using the car’s nav instead of your phone can cost you more than 1/2 hour, each trip.