Knicks morning news (2018.05.14) knickerblogger.net e85 gas stations florida

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When there is an upset in sports, a major question always is, was the favored team not as good as they should have been, or was the underdog better than consensus? I consider the Cavaliers/Toronto result an upset. Not that it is a tremendous surprise the Cavs won, but the way they won was clearly much better than people expected. So are the Cavs really that much better than their regular season record or the Raptors so much worse? The pundits seem to believe the former, as the two I’ve read are picking the Cavs to defeat Boston. I favor the latter. One reason is that in other sports, like tennis, upsets rarely signify further upsets. Usually the winner loses in the next round. I think that is likely here. Two, I believe the coaches’ vote for coach of the year. The league’s coaching fraternity clearly believes Stevens has lots more talent to work with than Casey did. And if you compare Toronto’s roster to that of Washington, I don’t see it as better in any significant way; but they did much better, which is a tribute to Casey.

You guys should really try to watch more film on these players before making definitive statements. I know Sports Reference is fun and all, but this isn’t the NBA. How a guy records his stats is every bit as important as his actual stat line because you need to know if he’s able to do it against NBA competition. Luka Doncic has generationally great stats for a prospect his age against the world’s 2nd best competition, but he’s just an average athlete by NBA standards and then you have his 30.6 3PT% to look at. I have no doubt he’s an NBA player, but I do have doubts that he’s a franchise savior.

Mikal Bridges looks to be a surefire pro, too. I hated him as recent as last week but I’ve come around on his awkward form because his release is pretty fast. He can’t dribble and he’s a poor rebounder though, which means you’re banking that he’s a legit 3 and D prospect because he will not offer you anything in terms of passing, shot creation, or rebounding. It also means you can only play him at small forward unless he gets stronger/becomes a better rebounder.

Wendell Carter Jr is not as good a player as Marvin Bagley, who was the #1 player in both the class of 2018 and the class of 2017. Duke University took the number #35 jersey out of the rafters so he could wear it. Marvin Bagley is a better rebounding version of Toronto Bosh and he already comes with a 3 point jumper, and then there’s room for him to develop a handle when you watch him play. Somebody compared him to Michael Beasley as a prospect. Well if you can draft a more focused version of Beasley without the weed addiction you’ve found an unstoppable basketball player.

Bagley is a truly horrible defender with a very one dimensional offensive game (face up and rim running) and limited secondary skills. He is literally the 7 foot version of Michael Beasley. Do you want Michael Beasley with 2 extra inches? I don’t.

The myth that no step vert and other traditional markers of “athleticism” are strongly correlated with a high ceiling needs to stop. Of course it can help if you can jump out of the gym, but the thing that correlates most with a high ceiling is “skill” rather than athleticism at a young age–ie playmaking and bball iq in a its forms. Luka isn’t even that unathletic, he’s built like a truck and can dunk with relative ease. He’s got a much higher ceiling than Ayton, who will likely never be a good defensive player, and pretty much anyone else not named Trae Young, because he does literally everything you need to orchestrate an offense without giving too much back on the other end. He’s close to the second coming of Larry Bird. Also, if you combine his two seasons of 3 pt shooting (the responsible thing to do), hes an average shooter at 35% on high volume while doing advanced step backs and shooting off pin downs, which at least suggests that he could become an elite 3 point shooter (like Harden eventually became.) There should simply be no question about who goes first in this draft.

[Doncic’s] close to the second coming of Larry Bird. Also, if you combine his two seasons of 3 pt shooting (the responsible thing to do), hes an average shooter at 35% on high volume while doing advanced step backs and shooting off pin downs, which at least suggests that he could become an elite 3 point shooter (like Harden eventually became.) There should simply be no question about who goes first in this draft

Can you name one superstar who isn’t either a athletic/physical freak or a lights out shooter? For Doncic to be a generational type talent like Bird he’s going to have to shoot a whole lot better than he does now. I don’t know where you get 35%- over the last two years he’s shot .323 from three with this year being a troubling .306. He’s got a great handle and nice hesitation moves but those will only get you so far if you can’t punish defenders for sagging off of you. I’d love him on the Knicks and think he’ll shoot well enough to be a very, very good player but I’m not sold on him being an perennial all-NBA talent unless his shooting improves dramatically. He’s also going to be a very high turnover guy for at least the first few years as he’s averaging over 3 per 36 now.

As for Ayton- I think people on this site are undervaluing the guy. He was basically a better Karl-Anthony Towns on offense (higher TS%, usage, and lower turnovers while also playing significantly more mpg). Towns did get a lot more blocks/steals but also fouled at twice the rate (5.6 per 40 vs 2.8) for what that’s worth. Ayton is also bigger and probably more athletic than Towns. His offensive ceiling is off the charts. He played a lot of 4 (as did Towns) so I think it’s at least possible that he’ll be better defensively once he plays the 5 full-time but it’s clear he’ll have a lot of work to do on that end. I’d probably go with Doncic at one- certainly a better fit for the Knicks- but I don’t think it’s the no-brainer people here seem to think it is.

I want Doncic more than anyone else but I agree that people need to slow down on the once in a lifetime prospect type talk. He is very good but because of his high-level experience in Europe he might be closer to his ceiling than his American counterparts, meaning he will start better and improve less.

I look at Rubio as a comparison. He was also a truly dominant player in Europe putting up unbelievable stats for an 18-year-old. He plateaued and didn’t really improve, even regressed a little, over the next two seasons in Europe before he came over.

Doncic could keep improving and become an all-world player but there isn’t a ton to improve. You look at someone like KP and you see loads of untapped potential, that maybe they reach maybe they don’t but you look at Doncic and where is his untapped potential. He already has great BBIQ, is strong, a good rebounder, a great passer, and a solid shooter. He’s not getting more athletic so the only real places for improvement is as a shooter and does that make him all world. It makes him great but he is not the next LeBron or even Simmons.