Larger and less frequent calorie consumption – anabolic steroids discussion and bodybuilding forum gas x side effects liver

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I have been doing some research and talking with some people who have a lot of knowledge/education/experience in nutrition and they have moved to larger caloric consumption in less frequent feedings. Basically using me for example at around 4K calories I’m pretty close to base caloric needs so I split all my macro nutrients/calories into those 3 meals. It comes out to be around 1,300 cal per meal give or take a few hundred. I’m not so much worried about hitting the macros right on the head but more so hitting that total calorie number each day.

So far I have enjoyed the freedom of not eati as often and also feeling like having 5-6 hrs between meals allows my body to fully digest the food before I start eating again. Think outside the bro science box and don’t get so hung up on what everyone else is doing. I’ll keep you guys informed on how it’s going but after about 7-10 days I’m actually feeling better and lowered my gear intake slightly and I’m fuller and bigger right now compared to couple weeks ago when I was taking the high protein low carb approach.

If eating all your 4000calories in one meal isn’t good, then dividing it in two meals and eating 2000 calories every twelve hours would be better. Applying this logic, more feedings is optimal. The goal is to find at what point "more" equals "optimal". For the sake of discussion I’m going to assume optimal will increase body mass as aggressively as possible.

We all know why they use I.V. medical applications. For this very same reason a constant feed of nutrients would be optimal. But no one is walking around with an IV hanging from their arm.lol The question is how much food can your body assimilate at one meal? That would come down to the types of foods your eating and how fast they break down in your system.

So what would be optimal for many feedings would look like fish and rice. For what your doing I would move more towards stake and yams with a heavy veggy like broccoli. The stake will get you from one feeding to the next with very little nutrient gaps..IMO.

I think the constant supply of nutrients is actually counter productive to things like insulin sinsitivity and absorption of nutrients. Generally when people are eating every 2-3hrs they havnt digested the last meal and your constantly stressing your system with non stop food intake.

This is strictly just an assumption, but I think a lot of the differences that people see in their body composition from meal timing and size are due to changes in blood sugar and insulin sensitivity. There are just too many variables to take into account that I find it difficult to dismiss someone’s personal experiences summarily.

His caloric intake and meal timing are only part of the equation. Macronutrient breakdown, insulin sensitivity, blood sugar, and cardiovascular exercise could all have been playing a part in the changes that squatster experienced. I’m usually the first to dismiss anecdotal evidence as I much prefer hard science and research, but the number of factors potentially at play here is just too high to dismiss anyone’s experiences as broscience.

I agree. There are a lot of factors. If overall macros are the same there might not be much difference but for some there could be. Especially if you are going from 6 to 3 meals per day. That is double the amount of food to be digested at one time. They may have double the amount of time to digest that meal but it will change outcome/results for many people. The amount of meals is a big factor.

There is a lot to this. Generally I prefer smaller frequent meals but there has to be a limit with everything. No one opinion is wrong. Although when wanting to consume higher amounts of protein to grow I think frequent meals are much better. Consuming 100g+ protein 3 times per day can have it’s disadvantages. I think splitting up protein into approx 50g portions is a better way. Rambo posted about bloating and that is an issue as well. But so can insulin sensitivity when consuming food around the clock.

Somewhere in the middle is the best place for most people. For me when bulking 6 meals per day is about right. 3 meals per day works for me when my goals are different. Generally I think someone wanting to get the best results needs to eat more frequently. People can turn their bodies into processing machines and if they pick the right foods that only adds to things. Now I am not stating guys can’t build incredible physiques eating 3 tiems daily as they obviously can. I just think for most goals frequent feeding is optimal for most people when taking everything into account.

There is a lot to this. Generally I prefer smaller frequent meals but there has to be a limit with everything. No one opinion is wrong. Although when wanting to consume higher amounts of protein to grow I think frequent meals are much better. Consuming 100g+ protein 3 times per day can have it’s disadvantages. I think splitting up protein into approx 50g portions is a better way. Rambo posted about bloating and that is an issue as well. But so can insulin sensitivity when consuming food around the clock.

Somewhere in the middle is the best place for most people. For me when bulking 6 meals per day is about right. 3 meals per day works for me when my goals are different. Generally I think someone wanting to get the best results needs to eat more frequently. People can turn their bodies into processing machines and if they pick the right foods that only adds to things. Now I am not stating guys can’t build incredible physiques eating 3 tiems daily as they obviously can. I just think for most goals frequent feeding is optimal for most people when taking everything into account.

You always here numbers thrown out like the body can only utilize 50g or 60g or 45g of protein per meal but I’m curious as to where they are getting this information from? I’m sure most of it is just based off what someone else tells them or maybe the fact that when they consumed a large amount of food they got bloated? I personally can consume 100-150g protein and not feel the slightest bit of bloat or fullness. Is my body able to utilize all that protein? I don’t know but I personally think regardless of if it can or not I know I can concistently get in 3 meals per day instead of trying to hit 6-8 per day and consistency usually is the best way in my opinion. I know a good amount of guys who say they eat 6-8 meals daily but it’s not very often that they are nailing that exact amount on a weekly or even daily basis.

Are we talking about the best amount of meals for 4000 calories or is it best to remain consistent with the meal schedule? Not an attack just lost me a little. Are you saying 3 to 4 is best for YOU because you can remain consistent? IMO it’s still best to have many smaller meals and if you miss a meal or two then that’s the time to make it up with a disproportionately larger meal.

I think potentially both…I think consistency is much better than how many meals you consume. Meaning if you can nail 6 meals daily without ever missing meals than maybe that’s the best option but I am willing to bet majority of people even if they say they do can’t do that year in year out. So if 3 meals or 4 meals is something that you can do everyday regardless of what you having going on maybe that’s a better option. I am not saying this is the best nesesaraly but I feel like as bodybuilders we follow silly bro science crap that makes no sense just because that’s what everyone else does. I am tying to stay open minded and I’ll see what happens.