Massey ferguson mf 650 22 inch and 38 inch rototiller information – gttalk electricity billy elliot karaoke

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To be able to mount the tiller on to your Massey Ferguson MF10 or MF12 garden tractor you need a rear lift kit. If you don’t have a lift kit on your Massey you can find lift kits for sale either in the classifieds section here at GTtalk or places like eBay.

Massey Ferguson MF10 garden tractors made before serial #6365 need a couple of extra modifications done to fit a rear lift kit. The rear plate needs to be drilled out and 2 holes added for the lift spring bracket. Massey Ferguson MF10 and MF12 garden tractors 1967 and newer do not need any modifications done and everything will bolt right on. If you need help identifying the year of your Massey Ferguson garden tractor you can use this serial number build date sheet in the GTtalk Manuals section.

There are two different style drive shafts along with two different style gear box inputs for later and newer tillers. The later tillers had a square end at the tiller and a spline end on the gear box at the pto and the drive shaft had matching ends accordingly.

There is also a difference in frame size between the Massey Ferguson MF12 Hydrostatic or Variable Speed models, the MF10 only came as a variable gear drive model. The hydrostatic drive garden tractors are longer then the variable drive sister. There is a small extension piece that mounts to the MF650 tiller to make up the difference in frame size on the MF12 hydrostatic model.

So far I have only used the 22" wide MF650 tiller. I have used it both on the Varidrive and Hydra drive garden tractors and it works good on both. I feel the gear drive tractors have an advantage in that the tractor moves at a slower steady pace. With the Hydra drive I feel it is a little tricky to do this but it can be done. The manual says to run the engine at 3/4 power.

If you have a MF650 tiller or other Massey Ferguson tiller and have any questions post about in in the Massey Ferguson tractor forum here at GTtalk. For reference there is the Massey Ferguson MF650 Tiller Operators Manual and the Massey Ferguson MF10 and MF12 Service Manual.

Well, then it definitely is the MF650 and it is complete. The only piece maybe missing is the extension, but it sounds like that is not necessary. I got looking at this tractor a little closer. I don’t think it is a MF7 even though it may have the 7hp on it. I think this is really a MF10/12. This tractor and it’s parts mower are in ROUGH, but solid shape. No other identification. I think it was a decent deal though. 2 tractors, but only one with a motor. Wheel weights, dozer blade, and tiller for $200. The spare tractor has a slightly different front end. It looks like a dynamark front end. It very well could be based on the production history of these machines. Also, it looks like maybe it was once painted blue. I am wondering if the old 7hp can handle a tiller? I will try to post a picture soon. No laughing.

When trying to do some research I came across I think another good deal. I am trying to figure out how to buy this without the wife freaking out. MF14 original owner with dozer, snowthrower, and deck for $800 in good shape. Does this sound good? Sounds like finding a MF550 is next to impossible. I am really only needing something with a tiller that is usable and this is the mess I am getting myself in. This stuff is fun!

Well, then it definitely is the MF650 and it is complete. The only piece maybe missing is the extension, but it sounds like that is not necessary. I got looking at this tractor a little closer. I don’t think it is a MF7 even though it may have the 7hp on it. I think this is really a MF10/12. This tractor and it’s parts mower are in ROUGH, but solid shape. No other identification. I think it was a decent deal though. 2 tractors, but only one with a motor. Wheel weights, dozer blade, and tiller for $200. The spare tractor has a slightly different front end. It looks like a dynamark front end. It very well could be based on the production history of these machines. Also, it looks like maybe it was once painted blue. I am wondering if the old 7hp can handle a tiller? I will try to post a picture soon. No laughing.

When trying to do some research I came across I think another good deal. I am trying to figure out how to buy this without the wife freaking out. MF14 original owner with dozer, snowthrower, and deck for $800 in good shape. Does this sound good? Sounds like finding a MF550 is next to impossible. I am really only needing something with a tiller that is usable and this is the mess I am getting myself in. This stuff is fun!

I finally was able to spend a little time today hooking up the tiller. I drilled out and mounted the lift spring bracket. Then I removed the mower deck and attached the tiller. I found out why everyone has a different tractor for each implement. This was more of a bear than I expected. It really wasn’t too bad, but I had to attach the tiller all at once. When I bought this, the Drive shaft was already connected to the gear box and tiller. I read that these should be connected to each other via a shoulder bolt, but on mine there was some sort of pin. I was unable to tap out this pin and didn’t want to break anything. It obviously is in there good as no one would ever want to attach, dettach, or store it as one piece. I think it would have been much simpler to mount in 3 pieces than it was in 1 piece. Lugging around 140lbs to line up and mount bolts was harder than it should have been. But I had fun and got it all ready to go. Well, all but one thing….

I bought this Gates#2360. This is a 36" belt. I didn’t try to actually run it, but I am really don’t think this could be the correct belt. It has to be at least 2 inches too long. (And yes I checked this with the PTO in the engaged position. In the disengaged position the belt could fall off). So I was bummed to not be able to check this out. It’s probably too wet anyway. Doug, can you or someone else verify the size or id of this belt? It is not in the manual.

I did want to pass along good find. When I called a local auto parts store to purchase this gates belt, they wanted $25. I thought that was steep, so I purchased their cheap throw-away one for $5 and then looked on the internet for the gates. I found both KSCdirect .com and vbeltsupply .com were very cheap. This belt was under $6 on each site. I also needed a big deck belt (123") for my john deere that was $80. On these websites they had a kevlar belt (not JD) for about $20. I was suspicious, but decided to give them a try. Shipping was a little high, at $13, but worth it. I bought from kscdirect, and choose the cheapest shipping method and still received the gates belt in 1 day. I have not yet received the john deere belt, but I called and they said it was coming from another location.

I didn’t notice that until now and I mounted this in the lowest position. I don’t see this in the manual. How did you figure this out? Do you think I need to move these up? Everything seems to pivot just fine when I raise and lower the tiller via the lift lever.