Mormon colony in tierra del fuego or elsewhere in north america besides utah alternate history discussion gas bloating pain


I was reading the resurrected TL on a possible British colony in Tierra del Fuego. I found it illuminating because of the information of what the climate is actually like down there and the barriers to British interest in the place, ( I seem to recall that the British did try a colony near what is now Ushuaia in the 1830s but that it failed). I got to thinking what it would take to motivate people to settle in such marginal land as Tierra del Fuego/Patagonia in the mid 19th Century and it occurred to me that the Mormons gas x while pregnant were facing a crisis of persecution in 1844, only a year after Chile established it’s Punta Arenas colony and that for Easterners unfamiliar with desert conditions, Utah was as or more marginal land than Tierra del Fuego.

What if (and this would dovetail with the TL on early 1840s Texas gold discovery in Colorado) Utah had proven unacceptable for Mormon settlement, maybe because some Gentiles, maybe Texans had already established gas pain in chest a settlement there or there was simply too much gold prospecting going on around Utah for Brigham Young to feel comfortably isolated there? There might have been some other possibilities (Vancouver Island had been mentioned and discarded) , Columbia Basin? Okanogan Valley? Skeena Valley of Northern Oregon? Upper Fraser Valley? Baja California?

but Brigham Young was looking for a home for the Mormon community at the same time that General Rojas was looking for settlers for Tierra del Fuego-Patagonia. If both could have become electricity deregulation in california aware of each other’s search, a land grant might have been worked out. Then it would be a matter of getting the Nauvoo community to New Orleans (probably the old way by flatboat down the Mississippi) and charter ships to bring them to Tierra Del Fuego, where converts from the UK and Norway (which was at the time a fertile mission field for LDS) could join them. The climate of Tierra del Fuego (or the rest gaslighting of Pacific Patagonia) would not faze Norwegians, who could teach the rest of the community what it takes to survive agriculturally in a place with Tiera del Fuego’s climate. The fact is that religion or the need to avoid religious Eventually (probably sooner, given the bitter civil war that developed in Argentina) or later, an indepndent nation of Deseret might exist, provided that the n gas price Monroe Doctrine deterrred the British from simply invading the place because of the offense to morality that legal polygamy anywhere in the English speaking world might represent. Or if the Mormons by then have settled far enough into Patagonia and increased their numbers enough to make any atempt outside takepver costly enough to fail, ultimately. I think that something like this would only have taken a few things butterflied to happen.

I think Brigham Young might have missed a bet not starting his settlement at Grand Junction CO, where the Colorado and the Gunnison Rivers meet. The colony would have had more water, for one thing, and still be able to expand in all directions, at least to the San Juan Mountains and the Gore Range of the Rockies. Plus they would have had all that silver and gold, (mostly silver) from Aspen and Redcliff and Ouray, Crested Butte and Telluride and Silverton. And electricity experiments for 4th graders probably exanded into the San Juan Basin around Durango as well as west to the Great Salt Lake.

As for Manitoba, I think if anything, the British would be even less tolerant of polygamy than Americans turned out to be. If the British could not bring a Manitoba Deseret to heel, they likely would have sold Manitoba to the United States/ Remember, this is the time that the silk hat comes into fashion and devalues beaver hats and therefore beaver furs. Hudson’s Bay Company almost goes bankrupt. And then there’s the question grade 9 electricity unit test answers of how well the Mormons would get along with the Metis. I suppose the Mormons could always get some of the seclusion they needed by settling in the marshland between Lake Winnipeg and Lake Manitoba up to the Saskatchewan River. And perhaps learning from Lapp converts from Norway how to herd reindeer even further north. Now that would be interesting. A Deseret dominating the Northwest territories and what is now the Northern Prairie provinces. Again, a need gas and supply shreveport to keep both the British and the Americans at bay.

Click to expand…Not these swamps. Once you get past the interlake districts, then you get into the ‘Swampy Cree’ territories. You’re looking at the bottom of the drainage basins for the Nelson, Churchill and Red Rivers – which between them drain as much of the continent as the entire Mississippi basin – it’s a huge drainage catchment that empties in here.

Plus, if you gas 1940 hopper actually dig out a map for this area, you found literally a million streams and rivers and lakes, winding in and out of each other to the point where you can’t tell islands from mainland. It’s a mess. There’s no draining that. And even there, what passes for land is in most cases, permafrost and muskeg. You can’t drain muskeg, you can’t farm it, you can’t build a house on it, nothing.

In Manitoba, the farthest north you get sustained agriculture is probably The Pas. Which, coincidentally, is where I happen to be writing from at this moment. The Pas is, by the way, from the Cree word Opaskwaya or Pasquia which means literally the woods. Basically, it was solid enough land right around here that the indians could build their tribe, the whites could build a town and farmers could plow. Going west you get agriculture at higher latitudes in Saskatchewan and Alberta the landscape is different – actual soil electricity lessons ks1, rather than swampy muskeg.