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Please remember that every Great House is literally a nation of billions unto itself. Considering that modern nations of only a few millions frequently have multiple arms manufacturers, each with their own style, the fact that every House gang has the same aesthetic to their gear is the ascension day miracle, not that each House has different stuff.

I disagree. emitra electricity bill payment As Blackfang says this isn’t a modern world with modern nations, it’s a hive world in 40K. The majority of basic weaponry should be made to STC patterns, and most of that to whatever specific STC is most widely used locally. Houses would be competing for contracts to produce STC gear using STC designs, not manufacturing their own gear and then trying to flog it like companies and states do today. I can just about buy in to the idea that Van Saar have a complete set of unique gear, there’s no issue with Houses manufacturing their own fancy specialist equipment/weapons or with Cawdor’s junk’o’gun things, and just because one appropriate style for each weapon is the most common doesn’t mean you can’t have any variants they could chuck a Mars or Kantrael pattern weapon on a sprue here & there, but the idea the Houses are making six different patterns of autogun, autopistol, of laspistol, or lasgun etc etc that aren’t found anywhere else AND also producing the Necromunda pattern(while the pictured weapon isn’t explicitly named that AFAIK, it only shows up on classic Necromunda models to my knowledge, and the other commonplace style from that range has already been tagged as Triplex-Phall pattern) is just silly IMO.

Please remember that every Great House is literally a nation of billions unto itself. Considering that modern nations of only a few millions frequently have multiple arms manufacturers, each with their own style, the fact that every House gang has the same aesthetic to their gear is the ascension day miracle, not that each House has different stuff.

Yeah, we have long known that different forge worlds generally produce their own STC variants, and even multiple variants of similar designs. In addition, the actual external appearence of a piece of kit is not entirely determined by the STC design- aesthetic modifications to the exterior are generally ok, such as wooden furniture on a lasgun, rather than metal or something. A lot of " STC" tech also just seems to be pre-Imperial human tech adopted into the fold during the Great Crusade.

Necromunda is a planet with an enormous population- likely one of the most populous planets in the Imperium- and was populous long before it became an Imperial planet. It is also hugely developed and technologically advanced. As each of the Houses represents distinct industrial concerns holding technology that may well be pre-Imperial, I don’t think it is at all inconceivable that they each choose to manufacture patterns of weaponry that are visually distinct from those of other Houses- each House has its own area of expertise and aesthetic, and weaponry to suit. Some of those patterns have probably been produced continually since before the Imperial Fists brought the Araneus Continuity into compliance- maybe Araneus soldiers carried Nihilus-pattern lasweapons into battle against the Great Crusade?

Of course a gang in the Underhive would probably end up with a mix of different equipment after awhile, and certain patterns common to the wider Imperium also seem to be present (like autoguns in the Armageddon-pattern style, used by both House Escher and scavenged by House Cawdor. Currently also the standard weapins for Chaos and Genestealer cultists).

But many of the gangs do have a valid reason to make guns to different specifications. grade 9 electricity quiz A Goliath ganger is physically totally different to an Escher ganger. A weapon a Goliath can easily hold would be hard for an Escher to use without risking harm to themselves or just being really inaccurate. Similarly a Goliath might have to take the trigger guard off just to be able to get their finger to an Escher gun.

Remember the Hive City has possibly as many people as the whole world we live on today. The size is VAST and actually quite mind breaking as to how huge we are talking when waste output forms vast waterfalls in the underhive; when whole domes of people can be crushed and destroyed in a quake and it hardly has any effect on the upper reaches.

I can well see competing gangs producing weapons to their own style, suited to their own use. Also don’t forget many gangers are going to custom craft, twist, alter and generally muck around with their gear to suit their own unique tastes. e85 gas stations in san antonio tx So each gang having its own design builds into that visual theme; even though in reality many would be stealing guns off each other and borrowing gear and buying and trading it all the time.

Please remember that every Great House is literally a nation of billions unto itself. Considering that modern nations of only a few millions frequently have multiple arms manufacturers, each with their own style, the fact that every House gang has the same aesthetic to their gear is the ascension day miracle, not that each House has different stuff.

I disagree. As Blackfang says this isn’t a modern world with modern nations, it’s a hive world in 40K. electricity quiz ks3 The majority of basic weaponry should be made to STC patterns, and most of that to whatever specific STC is most widely used locally. Houses would be competing for contracts to produce STC gear using STC designs, not manufacturing their own gear and then trying to flog it like companies and states do today. I can just about buy in to the idea that Van Saar have a complete set of unique gear, there’s no issue with Houses manufacturing their own fancy specialist equipment/weapons or with Cawdor’s junk’o’gun things, and just because one appropriate style for each weapon is the most common doesn’t mean you can’t have any variants they could chuck a Mars or Kantrael pattern weapon on a sprue here & there, but the idea the Houses are making six different patterns of autogun, autopistol, of laspistol, or lasgun etc etc that aren’t found anywhere else AND also producing the Necromunda pattern(while the pictured weapon isn’t explicitly named that AFAIK, it only shows up on classic Necromunda models to my knowledge, and the other commonplace style from that range has already been tagged as Triplex-Phall pattern) is just silly IMO.

The autoguns are only used by three Houses, and come in two styles, one of which matches the broader autogun style (Armageddon-pattern) used by the GSC and Chaos cultists. Orlock specialise in auto weaponry, so it is not inconceivable they have won a contract for a specific pattern, or simply find the carbines they produce to suit their needs better than the longer Armageddon pattern used by Escher and scavenged by Cawdow.

The House-specific weapons largely represent doctrine and specialisation of the industrial output of the Houses- most of them are available in the trading post. They may represent exclusive contracts to manufacture certain designs from the Adeptus Mechanicus- Necromunda has had ten thousand years as a prime planet in the Segmentum Solar to build such trade complexities.

Oh, another point- as Imperial industrial concerns, they will also have contracts for who they supply, many will be centuries or more old. House Orlock, as an example, may supply the Imperial Navy, which is why they focus on short, handy auto weapons and combat shotguns. House Escher may supply the Guard, so they have a focus on lasguns. And so on.

The autoguns are only used by three Houses, and come in two styles, one of which matches the broader autogun style (Armageddon-pattern) used by the GSC and Chaos cultists. Orlock specialise in auto weaponry, so it is not inconceivable they have won a contract for a specific pattern, or simply find the carbines they produce to suit their needs better than the longer Armageddon pattern used by Escher and scavenged by Cawdow.

Also, "pattern" doesn’t just mean visually obvious differences – see all the different patterns of bolt weapon and plasma weapon represented in the different Imperial Armour books in use by different Space Marine chapters – all visually identical, but different patterns. The different House styles are probably descended from STC plans for lasguns given different starting tech levels and available raw materials.

My take on the different House styles is that the internals – power packs, lasing chamber, focusing optics, etc are all standard – one or a few STC designs – but all the external hardware is different. speedy q gas station Somewhere in the House Escher lasgun factory, they churn out lasgun skeletons by the million, then half of them go down the "export" line to get the standard Astra Militarum furniture added, the other half go down the "domestic" line and get the more slim-line House equipment.