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Is it expensive to attend a PB conference? Heck yes. Is it worth it? Well….in my case probably not. But if someone is new to ponds, or totally infatuated with everything pondish, I have no doubt they will come away feeling satisfied. I have been to a conference at Big Cedar, and have attended a few regional events. And without a doubt the thing that still stays with e 87 gasoline me even today, is getting to meet, and hang out with people I met through the website. It’s great.

Now the speakers and presentations? I’m on the fence. I feel that a lot, a whole lot actually, of conference content and magazine content as well, is almost painfully detailed. If I’m laying up a concrete block retaining wall, I don’t need to know where the aggregate inside the block was procured, and by what quarrying method. I just need to know that the finished block meets relevant specs, and some help on how to lay the first course straight and level would be most appreciated. I can take it from there.

And that’s where the pond/fish infatuation comes into play. If you’re one of those ultra detail guys, you have much to gain by attending the presentations. The same with the vendors… in this day and age, I can find pretty much whatever I want where product and info is concerned, right at my keyboard shale gas in spanish. If you need to see it firsthand, or fondle it, or delve into excruciatingly detailed analysis with a rep, then that’s another great reason to attend.

But if you’re going for some simple fellowship, to meet the people you know from the forum, that’s a bit of a different animal for me. That’s the part I like…..just hanging out and talking about everything….not just ponds or fish. And you can do that at a conference. But it isn’t always easy, due to the afore-mentioned presentations and vendors. It sometimes seemed to me that there was too much happening to allow much fellowship. I have enjoyed myself much more at regional get togethers, some sanctioned by PB, some just off the cuff, hanging out and fishing. So is a conference worth it, if socializing is your goal? To me it isn’t, but that’s just me.

Is the PB enterprise geared towards Texans? I would definitely say yes. There’s a strong Texas contingent, many static electricity online games know each other, PB itself is based in Texas, and well, let’s just throw it out there: PB is a business. And the goal is profit. Why wouldn’t you play to the money, just a little? If I had a business selling maple syrup supplies, I wouldn’t spend as much time talking to folks in Tennessee as I would people in Vermont. I would be happy to sell product to Tennessee, and would be glad to travel and promote my business wherever the opportunity presented itself. But the bulk of my energy would probably be spent further north. That’s where my bread ( or pancake) is buttered at.

Brian, I don’t pay for alcohol, cigarettes, or game day tickets. Have zero desire for all three. If I were to think about it, I might come up with when the last time I paid for parking was. I know the point you’re trying to make, but my point is that I see no reason to pay for what I’m not going to use. That’s why I don’t subscribe to the mag anymore.

I do not consider ponds/fish to be a rapidly evolving 3 gases that cause global warming, fast paced, constantly changing endeavor. Or at least not applicable to my level of involvement. I have no problem paying for answers, provided I have a question in the first place. I don’t anymore. My level of knowledge is sufficient for my level of involvement with our ponds. And that knowledge came mostly from this forum. When somebody builds the ultimate BG, I’m all ears. But until that happens, those same BG that have been stocked in Hoosier ponds for the last 50 years are doing very well for me. And gas x dosage for dogs for my ambitions, I have them figured out as far as I need to.

I agree on the fellowship angle of attending a conference, and said so in my earlier post. That’s the draw for me. But to be blunt, taking off work and driving 1600 miles to spend a couple days, while spending several hundred dollars to do so, is to me, silly. You live in Texas. Myself and many others facing the same conundrum do not. If I’m going to take the time and spend the money, it needs to be on something for the entire family.

Sunil, as a moderator it feels to me that you are walking close to the line of making several very personal attacks. Highlighting your issues with his generosity, his personality flaws, his personal affluence (wealth), and his honest feeling that he doesn’t get much from the magazine anymore as negative things make me feel uncomfortable. Perhaps you can chapter 7 electricity test take further discussion with him about these issues into a private message.

This thread was giving everyone the opportunity to give honest feedback about going to these events. The feedback from those who actually went should be the most important. Those who didn’t go should be free to say why they didn’t go, or what might have changed their plans to allow them to go. I was hoping we could keep the environment friendly and supportive so EVERYONE could feel free to speak honestly about the good and the bad and the PB team could use that feedback constructively. I hope more will weigh in on this.

I hope there was opportunity for this feedback to be given in writing at the time of the conference? Was their feedback sheets distributed and electricity trading hubs collected at the time of the conference to rate the speakers, event venue, food, cost, and to ask how things could be improved so that more could come? Having that feedback while the conference is fresh in their mind is helpful. You also have to be sure that people feel comfortable leaving the feedback so you have to accept anonymous feedback too.

It takes courage to be honest about your feelings in this forum and we want people’s feedback to be accepted. Calling them out as lesser members because they gas vs electric water heater savings don’t see conference costs as justifiable for their family, or because they don’t donate enough to the PB Forum or didn’t subscribe enough years to the magazine is going to scare folks away from expressing their feelings.

When I said I thought something was out of kilter, and I needed time to collect my thoughts, I wasn’t just talking about the conference. I’m talking about the conference, the magazine, and even the forum. In my opinion, all three have really began favoring a certain segment….affluent pond owners. When I read a story in the mag about someone building a 35 acre lake, with waterfalls, petting zoos, three story floating docks, wetbar, whatever….then read where it took an entire fleet of earthmovers three weeks working round the clock seven days a week to gouge the thing out, and we haven’t even touched on the e gaskell north and south stocking plan…$$$$$$$$

Well, that is so far removed from what I consider pond reality, that it becomes kinda’ ridiculous in my eyes. And I’m betting that for every one of those pond high rollers, there’s hundreds of down-to-earth pond owners, with a one acre BOW, working overtime every week to make ends meet. Contrary to what some may believe, there are a great many pond owners who do not have the disposable income to spend on a conference. I don’t know of ONE pondowner who would entertain the idea of flying someone out to consult onsite. Not one. Sure, I get the appeal of playing to the high rollers…I totally do. And making money is what business is about, plain and simple. But why are we wondering about low attendance, and npower electricity power cut low subscription rates? It just seems obvious to me. Maybe a little more consideration for the common pondowner, with his or her goals.

Finally, lets talk payment. No, I do not subscribe. No, I do not support the forum any longer. When I decided earlier this year to stop subscribing, I did contact Bob and donate the cost of a subscription to a member who was unable to afford one himself. I asked for it to remain anonoymous. Maybe the donor you spoke of earlier is me, I don’t know. I felt that just because I didn’t see the value any longer, didn’t mean that someone else wouldn’t. And I told Bob so.