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The Cutwater owner is understandably upset, who wouldn’t be. tgas advisors But design/quality concerns aside, seems like he might have set himself up for an adversarial relationship right from the get-go, both with the dealer and Fluid Motion, just by the tone of his communications (eg, see post #3 email with list of demands prior to construction, and other early accounts describing correspondence with the dealer). Friends who know me know I’m not a big fan of these fancy boats, but for some reason I am finding it difficult to sympathize with him. I think he’d be a bit more successful in his online company shaming attempt by toning it down a few notches and just telling the facts rather than embellishing those tales. But then again, I’d be pretty worked up too if in his shoes…

I’ve thoroughly explored Teslin Lake in our C-Dory & some of it in a Inflatable. I tried several days with the inflatable in 2002 to go up the lake, but was beat back each time by rough water. In 2003 in the C-Dory, we made it all the way to its head & some up the inflowing river. On the way back we had strong winds & waves more like Yellowstone Lake can produce on our stern. It is a Inland Lake, but can kick up much bigger waves then 2 feet. It’s not very wide, but near 100 miles long. There may well have been only 2 feet of chop, then again it’s possible to have been much more.

A couple of things don’t add up for me though. Who has the extra funds to purchase the boat, plan and provision for a trip through the inside passage, hire all these people (and boss them around like they’re servants ) to work on his vessel, but doesn’t bother to purchase insurance? I mean you can’t even moor at some marinas without proving you have insurance. It doesn’t make any sense to me.

The other thing, is that "protected harbor" doesn’t look protected at all. It actually looks like a really bad spot in the photo, completely unprotected and open to a long fetch if weather goes south. Which they often do in the fall up north. The proof of the calm seas the night before – the small fishing boat without water in it, may or may not have actually been there. It could have just as easily been docked there after the fact. Whos gonna know in a remote place like that? Typically a boat of that size is not moored to a small floating dock like that with no pilings for long periods of time.

One of the reasons I retired as early as possible from retail sales. The advent of email seems to make many customers feel entitled to be rude. It always amazed me that some folks thought that the path to getting a salesperson on their side in negotiating a fair deal was to show him where the bear did-you-know-what in the woods. I read the first email and instantly recognized at best a difficult to please, very high maintenance customer and at the worst a very losing proposition. I’m sure the salesperson knew from the emails that if he sat down with this customer at the show he would be glued to him and his demands until closing time or beyond. I don’t see it as bad customer service so much as self defense. electricity static electricity I ain’t sayin’, I’m just sayin’. Please keep us posted!

As in many Marine disputes there are faults on both sides–Certainly Cutwater, definitely the "Port Boat House" and finally the owner–the worse of which is not to have insurance. I have a friend who "under insured" a Tayana 57, only on a trip deck load from Taiwan to Hong Kong–a day trip. The boat never arrived and was a total loss. Then there is the liability issue. The risk of damage or loss of the boat going up the outside (didn’t really do the "inland passage"; Started from Port Alberni–probably not the best of choices to start with!

One of the reasons to buy a new boat is that it can be customized. Mistake here may be because the work was done at Port Boat House. I had asked for several simple changes in my Tom Cat bought new in 2006. I was called one day by a gentleman who is now high up in the Cutwater Ranger group who said. There will be no changes–the boat is done–take it or leave it. I was not a happy camper. We made a semi compromise (I did the compromising). My punch list with the boat was abuts extensive as this cutwater–leaks, shower drain not hooked up. Electrical and fuel problems. I fixed them myself, so I knew they would be done correctly. The steering went out–I got some help from dealer with bleeding system.

All that said, we have seen several of these Cutwater 302 with twin Yamaha 300hp outboards at the 3 Ranger/Cutwater Gatherings we attended in 2018 (is that a C-Brat member record for 1 year?). gas monkey monster truck We were not impressed by how the superb ‘fit and finish’ resulted in through-hulls and wiring and utility runs etc that were totally inaccessible from inside the boat (alluded to in survey #2). They look like inboard diesel boats converted too quickly to multi-outboard boats, marine engineering be damned.

I can only give my personal experience with Port Boat House. I bought a 23 Venture from them in 2009. There were a couple of very minor issues with the boat in the first months, as there are with any new boat, and these were promptly addressed by Dave and Mike. Over the next 7 years I could always call them when I had questions and they were there to answer and support me. I met up with them at boat shows over those years and they always had time to answer questions as well as show me new boats and features. I recommended them to some people and they thanked me later. When it was time to move on to our current R25SC Ranger Tug Dave gave me a very fair trade and Brad worked with me to get the boat commissioned and delivered. In the two years since I bought the boat I have always had the same good support, though my issues have been minor. I have met people whose experience has not been the same as mine, including someone with a Ranger Tug, but I can only relate my own personal experience with PBH.

In my opinion some of the modifications made were significant customization and if I had been PBH I may have been somewhat reluctant to modify a boat until full payment was made. When I ran a business decisions like that were influenced partially by my personal relationship with the customer and a feeling whether I could work with them in case of issues. This blog would not have given me a warm feeling from the beginning. Again, just my opinion.

Fluid has grown exponentially in recent years, adding Cutwater to Ranger and expanding the range well beyond the original. I have always been an outboard lover but the later models and Cutwater were not for me for a number of reasons. I went with the well proven 25 diesel inboard and I am very happy with the boat. gasco abu dhabi salary The systems are far more complex that the 23 Venture and there’s lots to learn and maintain but I knew that going into the purchase.

I currently mentor entrepreneurs in the start up phase. The first 2-3 years are critical. After that period the stresses come when there is rapid expansion (think Tesla). There are often new systems put in place for customer relations, design, production, servicing, inventory control etc.. Problems will occur. They have to be resolved and that usually costs money, often a lot. Sometimes the company resizes back into something smaller, successful on another level. (Think C-Dory).

Granted that there are issues and blame to go around, my concern is with the basic issues that point to quality control at Cutwater/Ranger. Things like windows not sealed and drains not hooked up are pretty basic stuff and there should be a QA process to avoid simple errors like that. If I were spending $300K on a boat I would expect that there would be no problems due to simple stuff that could easily be checked. There should be a test cruise by the factory staff in typical weather conditions before the boat is released for delivery. In the PNW it should not be difficult to perform a water ingress test by simply letting the boat sit outside the factory for a couple of days.

My main concern as an owner of one of those boats would be is do they typically turn upside down when they get water in them? They mention they had time to have a drink on the boat as well as admiring the blue boat from the shore.. seems like the issue with water getting into the outboard support would not have happened instantly or only that day?

It can be very difficult dealing with the public. when was gas 99 cents in california I used to do remodeling and home building. I was very selective with my customers!!! If I did not like them I did not do business with them. PERIOD! most of my customers were working class medium income people like me. Modest homes, 1200 to 1500 sq ft. I did do some projects for very wealthy folks. It always seemed to me that most wellthy people were very nice to deal with, and the ones who were not were easy to spot..and avoid.. I passed on one attorney propesctive customer I had bad vibes about, he bankrupted the fellow who took the job! (I have known 4 attorneys I admire, so there are some good folks in that field)