Why is the ram eco-diesel so discounted – page 3 geothermal electricity how it works

Were they ever really selling that well? I mean, I owned a towing business for 20 years, started with Fords 7.3 (Navistar) which were decent engines. For what we needed them for, pulling, and fuel mileage vs. a 460 gas engine they worked. Or at least the engine did. The suspension and ESPECIALLY the brakes were, and STILL are not even CLOSE to what they need to be for a 19′ rollback that tows a vehicle up top, and another one behind. Front wheels will lock up without notice in a panic stop, yet the rears are hopeless.

I looked at the Dodge/RAM ED a few years back. Over $4500 up front cost. (Closer to 5K all said and done with option packages.) Then do the long term math on that. Operating cost, fuel, oil, filters, for what, 5mpg? The math showed it’d take over 44 years to break even over the HEMI! (Driving 12~15K a year.) Of course if you were pulling a boat 5 days a week, driving 50,000 miles a year it’d be a LOT better. But still not break even.

Fast forward to what we’ve now learned about breakage. Might even be able to throw the baby Ford 3.5 twin puffer in there too, considering they were grenading @ 50K on a regular basis. Brings the old drag racing adage into mind, "There is no replacement— for displacement". As Arsenio Hall used to say, " Hmmmmmmmmmmm".

Were they ever really selling that well? I mean, I owned a towing business for 20 years, started with Fords 7.3 (Navistar) which were decent engines. For what we needed them for, pulling, and fuel mileage vs. a 460 gas engine they worked. Or at least the engine did. The suspension and ESPECIALLY the brakes were, and STILL are not even CLOSE to what they need to be for a 19′ rollback that tows a vehicle up top, and another one behind. Front wheels will lock up without notice in a panic stop, yet the rears are hopeless.

I looked at the Dodge/RAM ED a few years back. Over $4500 up front cost. (Closer to 5K all said and done with option packages.) Then do the long term math on that. Operating cost, fuel, oil, filters, for what, 5mpg? The math showed it’d take over 44 years to break even over the HEMI! (Driving 12~15K a year.) Of course if you were pulling a boat 5 days a week, driving 50,000 miles a year it’d be a LOT better. But still not break even.

Fast forward to what we’ve now learned about breakage. Might even be able to throw the baby Ford 3.5 twin puffer in there too, considering they were grenading @ 50K on a regular basis. Brings the old drag racing adage into mind, "There is no replacement— for displacement". As Arsenio Hall used to say, " Hmmmmmmmmmmm".X2. Love my hemi

My buddy and I bought a pair of Eco-diesel about 3 years ago. I have about 125,000 on mine & he just traded his for a new one with about 50,000. Each of us had one glitch that stranded us but were covered by warranty. We both tow 20 foot fishing boats. Prior to this I had a Ram Hemi and a 3/4 ton Cummins. The Cummins was a beast but less comfortable around town. Hemi was nice but I prefer the ED. We’ll see about the "break-even point" after I check my trade-in price this winter when I get my new one!

i believe there are a few reasons they are so discounted. As mentioned, a brand new model is coming out and all the 2018 will be discounted. Secoundly, the ED was put in hold by the EPA for emissions and was just now approved so they have a lot of inventory. Finally, the ED was artificially marked up more than the actual cost. My buddy was in the business and sold me mine for the real cost, which was only about $3,000 more than the Hemi (most dealers were charging at least $5,000 more). What it doesn’t reflect is any major reliability difference between the Hemi, or any other GM, Ford, or Toyota engine IMO.